Unidentified Arab HF Voice/ALE Numbers Nets

One of the more interesting utility shortwave nets uncovered in 2007 has turned out to be quite a mystery. Documented by the information below, if you know anything about this net, I would like to hear from you. I would like to thank Sam in Europe and Thomas M. Rosnet, DL8AAM, for sharing their research below with the Btown Monitoring Post Blog audience. You guys are super.



Unidentified Arab Voice Nets
Tag: A1

Frequencies (USB) : 4600 4750 4900.5 5258 5540 5575 5667.7 5817 6789 6881.5 6902.5 8600 10390 10596.4 22580(H)

ALE ID’s: 1030 1050 1052 1101 1108 111 1410 1474 15xx 1643 1644 1660 1704 1706 1717 1912 1914 1918 1919 1966 3002 (H) 3023 3311 3316 3355 3600 3610 4020 4024 4400 4411 4920 4922 5000 5111 5112 5113 5201 6612 7004 7010 7310 8205 8304 8762 50403 73111 77004

Layout: Net Header:
Net relationship:
ID’s in group:

10xx
1030>1643
1050>1101
1050>3023
1050>8205
1050>50403
1030 1050 1052

1101
1101>1717
1101>1919
1101>1966
1108>6612
1101 1108

1111
1111 not monitored

1410
1410 > 4024
1410 > 73111
1410

1461 6881.5#
1494 5575 6881.5 6902.5

1474
1474>1912
1474>4400
1474

15xx (see attached 15xx Id list)
1552>4066
1554>4066
1557>1052

16xx
1660>8672
1643 1660

17xx
1706>1101
1706>1108
1706>5201
1704 1706 1717

19xx
1912>1108
1912>4411
1919>1030
1919>1050
1919>1101
1919>1474
1919>33xx
1919>4400
1912 1914 1918 1919 1966

30xx 34xx 36xx
3610>4020
3023 3311 3316 3355 3401 3600 3610

33xx
3311 3316 3355 not monitored

40xx
4020>1050
4020>36xx
4020>3401
4024>1101
4024>1919
4066>1912
4020 4024 4066

44xx
4400>1912
4400 4411

49xx
4920>1111
4922>4024
4920 4922

5000
5000>1912
5000

51xx
5111>1050
5111>7004
5111 5112 5113

5201
5201>1706
5201

6612
6612 not monitored

70xx
7010>1101
7004 7010

7310
7310>1912

8xxx
8205 (8672 not monitored)

73111
73111

77004
77004 > 1912

77004
77440 5575 6789 6902.5#
77443 6881.5 6902.5#
77449 5667.7#
77451 6789 6881.5 6902.5#

50403
50403

At this time the bolded Id’s are only possible members of the group, no confirmation as yet has been monitored.

Unidentified HF ALE Numbers Net - 1K5

Here is another unidentified HF ALE network profiled by my good friend Sam in Europe. As always, if you have anything to add, please pass it along using the email address in the masthead.

Network: 1K5 [15xx]

Frequencies (USB) : 4900.5 5002 5575 5600 5667.7 5817 6789 6881.5 6902.5 8600 10596.4

ALE ID’s:
1500 1506 1508
1511 1512 1513
1529
1530
1542 1543 1548
1550 1552 1554 1556 1557
1561
1574 1575 1577
1580 1581 1588 1589
1590 1592 1595 1597

Channel Activity
1500 6902.5#
1506 6789#
1508 6789#
1511 5575 and 6881.5#
1512 5667.7#
1513 5575#
1529 see history note
1530 see history note
1542 clg 1556 5575
1542 clg 1543 6881.5
1542 clg 1556 6881.5
1542 clg 1580 6881.5
1542 clg 1543 6902.5
1542 clg 1552 6902.5
1542 clg 1556 6902.5
1542 clg 1580 6902.5
1543 Not monitored
1548 5667.7 6789#
1548 clg 1542 6902.5
1550 6881.5#
1552 clg 4066 6902.5
1554 clg 4066 6902.5
1556 clg 1542 6881.5
1557 6881.5#
1561 5575 5667.7 and 6881.5#
1574 Not monitored
1577 5002 6789#
1580 see history note
1581 clg 1590 4900.5
1581 clg 1590 5575
1581 clg 1574 5575
1581 clg 1590 6789
1581 clg 1592 6881.5
1581 clg 1595 6902.5
1588 5817#
1589 see history note
1590 Not monitored
1592 clg 1575 6902.5
1595 not monitored
1597 5575 5667.7 and 6902.5#

Note: # following the channel indicates sounding only.

Historic Note:
1529 8600# (16/10/06)
1530 10596.4# (13/10/06)
1558 clg 1556 10596.4 (20/09/06)
1580 5600# (10/04/06)
1589 8600# (08/04/06)

New Unidentified HF ALE Net

Sam in Europe has passed along another new unidentified HF ALE numbers net info. Again if you have anything to add or wish to share some insight please contact me via the email address in the masthead. Anonymous contributions remain that way.

Unidentified Net

Unidentified Net

Frequencies (USB) : 4600 (4900.5) 5575 5667.7 6881.5 6902.5 8600 10596.4

ALE ID’s: 1030 1050 1474 1643 1644 1912 1914 1918 1919 3023 3311 3316 3355 3600 3610 4020 4400 5000 8205 8304 50403

Channel Activity

1030 clg 1643 8600 and 10596.4
1050 clg 8205 6881.5
1050 clg 50403 6881.5
1050 clg 8304 6881.5 6902.5
1050 clg 3023 6902.5
1474 clg 4400 5575
1474 clg 4400 5667.7
1474 clg 4400 6881.5
1474 clg 1912 6902.5
1474 clg 4400 6902.5
1643 4600#
1644 8600#
1912 6881.5# 6902.5#
1914 clg 1912 5575 and 6881.5
1918 clg 1050 6881.5
1918 6902.5#
1919 5575 and 5667.7#
1919 clg 1030 6881.5 and 6902.5
1919 clg 1474 5575 6881.5
1919 clg 1912 6881.5
1919 clg 3311 6881.5
1919 clg 3316 6881.5
1919 clg 3355 6881.5
1919 clg 4400 6881.5 and 6902.5
3023 Not monitored
3311 Not monitored
3316 Not monitored
3355 Not monitored
3600 Not monitored
3610 Not monitored
4020 clg 1050 6881.5
4020 clg 3600 5575 and 6902.5
4020 clg 3610 6881.5
4400 6881.5 and 6902.5#
4400 clg 1912 6881.5
4400 clg 1919 5575
5000 clg 1912 6881.5
8205 6881.5#
8304 Not monitored
50403 5575 6881.5 and 6902.5#

Note: # following the channel indicates sounding only.

The Id’s listed below are only included because they share the same channels and the Id’s are similar. I have yet to monitor an association.

1410 5667.7 6789 6881.5 and 6902.5#
1461 6881.5#
1494 5575 6881.5 and 6902.5#
1966 sndg only 5575 6881.5 and 6902.5
3029 sndg only 4900.5 5667.7 6881.5 and 6902.5
4066 sndg only 6881.5 and 6902.5

Regarding the 5667.7 I am aware of the possibility of the channel being operated in LSB 5670 but as yet I have not monitored any activity myself.

The decode below showing 191 could be a truncated ID of the 19XX group which indicates a further association.

[16:24:35][FRQ 06881500][TO ][6011][TWS][191][AL0] BER 4 SN 03 [AMD]EHW

Unidentified HF ALE Numbers Nets - 15xx

More unidentified HF ALE numbers net info from Sam in Europe. Again if you have anything to add or wish to share some insight please contact me via the email address in the masthead. Anonymous contributions remain that way.

Unidentified Net 15xx

Frequencies (USB) : 4900.5 5575 5667.7 6789 6881.5 6902.5

ALE ID’s: 1508 1511 1512 1513 1542 1543 1548 1550 1552 1556 1557 1561 1574 1580 1581 1590 1592 1597

Channel Activity

1508 6789#
1511 5575 and 6881.5#
1512 5667.7#
1513 5575#
1529 see history note
1530 see history note
1542 clg 1556 5575
1542 clg 1543 6881.5
1542 clg 1556 6881.5
1542 clg 1580 6881.5
1542 clg 1543 6902.5
1542 clg 1552 6902.5
1542 clg 1556 6902.5
1542 clg 1580 6902.5
1543 Not monitored
1548 5667.7#
1548 6789#
1548 clg 1542 6902.5
1550 6881.5#
1552 6881.5#
1556 clg 1542 6881.5
1557 6881.5#
1561 5575 5667.7 and 6881.5#
1590 Not monitored
1574 Not monitored
1580 see history note
1581 clg 1590 4900.5
1581 clg 1590 5575
1581 clg 1574 5575
1581 clg 1590 6789
1581 clg 1592 6881.5
1589 see history note
1590 Not monitored
1597 5575 5667.7 and 6902.5#

Note: # following the channel indicates sounding only.

Historic Note:
1529 8600# (16/10/06)
1530 10596.4# (13/10/06)
1580 5600# (10/04/06)
1589 8600# (08/04/06)

The Id’s listed below are only included because they share the same channels and the Id’s are similar. I have yet to monitor an association.

Regarding the 5667.7 I am aware of the possibility of the channel being operated in LSB 5670 but as yet I have not monitored any activity myself.

Unidentified HF ALE Numbers Nets - 17xx/51xx/55xx

The following information is courtesy of Sam in Europe. Thanks Sam. If anyone has any additional information or can ID these nets please contact me at the email address in the masthead.

Unidentified Nets 17xx related to 5201

Unidentified Nets 17xx related to 5201

Frequencies (USB) : 4900.5 6881.5 6902.5

ALE ID’s: 1704 1706 1717 5201

Channel Activity

1704 4900.5 and 6902.5#
1706 6881.5#
1706 clg 5201 6902.5
1717 6881.5 and 6902.5
5201 6881.5#
5201 clg 1706 6902.5

Unidentified Nets 55xx

Frequencies (USB) : 4900.5 6881.5 6902.5

ALE ID’s: 5500 5502 5511 5512 5513 5533

Channel Activity

5500 5575#
5500 clg 5513 6881.5
5500 clg 5513 6902.5
5502 4900.5 and 6881.5#
5511 6881.5#
5513 clg 5500 6902.5
5533 6881.5#

Unidentified Nets 51xx related to 7004

Frequencies (USB) 5667.7 6789 6881.5 8600 10390

ALE ID’s: 5111 5112 7004

Channel Activity

5111 5667.7 6789#
5111 clg 7004 6881.5
5112 6789 6881.5 8600 and 10390#
7004 6789 and 6881.5#

Note: # following the channel indicates sounding only.

Historic note:
5111 9200# (13/02/05)
5112 clg 7004 5478 (27/05/05)
7004 clg 7011 8600 (03/09/06)
7011 11495# (27/06/04)

The Id’s listed below are only included because they share the same channels and the Id’s are similar. I have yet to monitor an association.

7001 6583 and 8180#
7003 6881.5#
7010 5575 and 6902.5#
7012 6881.5#

Mystery Time Ticker on 5100 kHz

Last evening on the UDXF newsgroup, Jon in Florida posted a message regarding an apparent mystery time signal transmitting on 5100 kHz. From Jon's post:

"UnIDed station on 5100 kHz sending time pips and top of minute tone. No voice heard. I've noted this station on 5100 every night i've checked since first heard in early Dec (perhaps a bit earlier). 99.99 % sure its not a image or mixing productbecause i've checked useing 3 different types/brands of receivers. R75, WJ-8716 and Racal ra-6790/gm. heard on all 3. and using 2 different antennas. a t2fd cut for 3 MHz at 20 ft (and oriented for N/S signals), and a 21 ft verticle... Suspect something South-american.."

This morning I have fired up the San Antonio VEN DXTuners and it is there ticking away. Here is some of my observations that I just posted to the list of this station:

"Good signal at 1346 UTC. Will continue to check on some of the other receivers for other prop paths outside of South America, but that looks like a safe bet for now. Couple of notes: it appears this time signals is off about 7-8 seconds (slow) from NIST time. I am hearing the top of the minute tone off by that much. And I though there "may" be some sort of voice iD in there every few minutes but the audio modulation was way under the time tick if it is. I believe there may have been one just announced right before 1353. But I am not sure.

More...soon! Nice mystery." Any takers on who we have here. Email me at larryvanhorn @ monitoringtimes.com.

XSS ALE Net Continues to Mystify

Sam on the UDXF newsgroup this morning (2/8/2007) posted his latest round of intercepts on the infamous XSS HF ALE net. He even managed to observe a two way conversation between the XSS ALE Address (probable net control and dominate sounding station) and unid XKY ALE Address.

Some other ALE Addresses that Sam and others have logged include:
XAS / XBC / XDV / XFY / XGJ / XGP / XHK / XHZ / XKA / XKD / XKW / XKY / XJF / XJT / XJP / XJT / XJV / XLG

I should note that the ALE addresses above are static as they are being used over again over a long time period. Thanks Sam for your continued diligence in monitoring this mystery.

Here is the latest list of frequencies for this net: 2199.0 2217.4 3161.0 3227.4 3280.0 4166.4 4226.5 6243.0 6425.0 8108.5 8126.4 10360.0 10458.0 12057.5 12333.0 14510.0 16553.5 18405.0 20300.0 20965.0 kHz.

One theory about this net is that it may be associated with NATO in Europe, but there still is no definitive proof of this. If you have any insight, drop us a note at larryvanhorn @ monitoringtimes.com. I am interested in hearing from some of the readers of this blog.